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Telperiar
Sat Aug 23 2008, 01:43PM


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 Hello everybody,

Since the Japanese version of 9D starts to become popular, I want to support this movement. Since its possible to replace the language file of 9D for translation I had a deeper look into them. I managed to decode the file structure very easy and wrote a program to modify and combine language files. Customizing the language file is very useful since the clients differs a lot in volume of content.

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For the HowTo refer to this Sticky Thread

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margeman2k3
Sat Aug 23 2008, 06:33PM

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 You know, this would help Acclaim fix all of the text bugs in 9D.

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pipez
Sat Aug 23 2008, 10:55PM
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 after i done the Translation with your tool i got some bugs, level showed like 635465435153

the only good think that i notice is that the new items have japanese names now (i cant read them anyway ^^)
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Li
Sun Aug 24 2008, 09:33AM
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 yeah the lvl names now suck, but i can live with that at least the new items are now not textless
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Telperiar
Sun Aug 24 2008, 01:02PM


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 The tool is just modifying the textual content, we cant expect it to convert the game perfectly within a second. Otherwise Acclaims Job would be way too easy, wont it.

I will add a full text search in future to find misleading text more easily. The Level Ranks are at Section "EODString.XSR" ID 312+ in both clients. Feel free to experiment with it.

Edit: For me the level names are fine, just the "Requires" descriptions are broken. Quest text dont get automatically wrapped and some terms dont fit into the windows. Might me a good solution to change terms like "Chi Kung Attack" to "CK Attack".

I got some features in mind for the next version of the translator to be more helpful in editing issues.



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pipez
Sun Aug 24 2008, 02:41PM
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 I didnt say your tool is useless, its good if u have alot time
i was translating items 2 houers to find out whats the stuff in my bag is, but there is to many so i didnt find what i was translating

is there maybe a way to auto translate it? (im lazy ^_^)
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zackrob
Sun Aug 24 2008, 03:17PM

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 Ok, I have the game now, the translator and so on.

But the files will default them selves back to original state after every patch ? Also it the translated stuff personal only (we can't share them with each other?)

Anyway, if we all log in, then they will completely translate it for us humble players too in the (hopefully near, or "soon") future... Lets cross fingers.


Good threads don't die, they become Wikis: Patch 44,Function of Acclaim
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Telperiar
Sun Aug 24 2008, 05:50PM


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 Of course the file will reset to "default" when a patch gets downloded, might be a good idea to have a backup

I wont published any XSD files with Indy21 or Acclaim text myself, because they may see it as spreading copyrighted content. But I may release a XSD with self-made corrections soon.

I doubt the Japanese GMs will release an english translated version themself. I am already glad we get "tolerated" there which is not always granted.
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zackrob
Sun Aug 24 2008, 07:04PM

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Telperiar wrote ...

Of course the file will reset to "default" when a patch gets downloded, might be a good idea to have a backup

I wont published any XSD files with Indy21 or Acclaim text myself, because they may see it as spreading copyrighted content. But I may release a XSD with self-made corrections soon.

I doubt the Japanese GMs will release an english translated version themself. I am already glad we get "tolerated" there which is not always granted.


Telperiar, margeman, what bands are you in, lol... ? I think they might see the money behind opening an all English server of their own, but that's very unlikely at the moment indeed: look at their server load for instance... Btw, I am lvl 8, lol.

And I must say, the thing I liked most is that there is no "Acclaim" publicity anywhere I think they advertise something every 10 mins via Notice, but that is tolerable compared to ...



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Shadotao
Sun Aug 24 2008, 09:57PM
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 Love the translator telperiar. Seems Acclaim has most of the items in place just havent put them in yet.
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pipez
Tue Aug 26 2008, 03:31AM
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 is there a way to change the font?
its one of the problems why we cant read some stuff


found this in the jap file lol

A secret notice that says DE Xi of Hangzhou is currently hiring warriors of Black Clan allegiance Hye Young please note I made it “secret” instead of public because in our version, Black Clans are against the will of The Imperial Emperor and so it would not be an open, public announcement. Let me know if it’s a problem. 혜영씨, 흑도 내용에 의해서 공문이 아닌 비밀 방으로 바꿉답니다. 확인 부탁드립니다.

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udin9292
Tue Aug 26 2008, 09:42AM
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 why i cant download the translator?????????
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Telperiar
Tue Aug 26 2008, 09:45AM


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 Have you tried to click the blue download arrow? What happens?

Font cant be changed, but Translator v1.01 is about to come very soon, with nice improvements
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udin9292
Tue Aug 26 2008, 09:56AM
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udin9292 wrote ...

why i cant download the translator?????????



sory.. i can download it now.. btw.. where is EOD file????.. from where should i take it?
from japanese 9d or us folder?
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udin9292
Tue Aug 26 2008, 10:09AM
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 bro.. yr translator really good... but.. i cant do hd quest
..... the words like ... straight and didnt have any
paragrph ... how to change it?
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Telperiar
Tue Aug 26 2008, 10:18AM


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 There was a thread about quests requiring to type Asian symbols ...

http://9d.freeonweb.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?345

... check the end of this thread.
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dido95
Tue Aug 26 2008, 01:52PM

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 Hi Telperiar,

tnx for the tool.
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l8rdude
Tue Aug 26 2008, 06:48PM
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 I can only imagine how much work this was - thank you very much for this. Care to share the structure/format the language files use?

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Telperiar
Tue Aug 26 2008, 07:15PM


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 File structure was extremely easy to decode, took me an hex editor and a few minutes

  1. File Header:
  2.   FileID0: DWORD;                    // constant 0xFFCF
  3.   FileID1: DWORD;                    // unknown meaning, constant 0xFF01
  4.   NumberOfSections: DWORD;
  5.  
  6. Section Header:
  7.   NumberOfEntries: DWORD;
  8.   SectionName: WideString(64);
  9.  
  10. Entry:
  11.   IDNumber: DWORD;
  12.   Flag: DWORD;                        // unknown meaning, mostly 0x0
  13.   LengthOfText: DWORD                 // Length in WideChars, not Bytes
  14.   Text: WideString;                   // Variable length not terminated by #0
  15.  


File starts with the File Header, followed by a Section Header, followed by X Entries, continued for Y sections. Since I use Delphi for RAD Coding, its not that much work to produce a working editor.
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l8rdude
Tue Aug 26 2008, 07:57PM
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 Thankyou alot, again!
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Shadotao
Wed Aug 27 2008, 01:46AM
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 Yeah thank you again telperiar and for the upgrade to it. Your the greatest
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udin9292
Wed Aug 27 2008, 09:15AM
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 err... how to use it..???.....

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Telperiar
Wed Aug 27 2008, 09:22AM


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 umm... how to use what?
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eimajw
Wed Aug 27 2008, 09:35AM
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 telperiar i dont have the NDTEXTDB_JP file..

how do i get this so i can start translating?
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udin9292
Wed Aug 27 2008, 09:46AM
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Telperiar wrote ...

File structure was extremely easy to decode, took me an hex editor and a few minutes

  1. File Header:
  2.   FileID0: DWORD;                    // constant 0xFFCF
  3.   FileID1: DWORD;                    // unknown meaning, constant 0xFF01
  4.   NumberOfSections: DWORD;
  5.  
  6. Section Header:
  7.   NumberOfEntries: DWORD;
  8.   SectionName: WideString(64);
  9.  
  10. Entry:
  11.   IDNumber: DWORD;
  12.   Flag: DWORD;                        // unknown meaning, mostly 0x0
  13.   LengthOfText: DWORD                 // Length in WideChars, not Bytes
  14.   Text: WideString;                   // Variable length not terminated by #0
  15.  


File starts with the File Header, followed by a Section Header, followed by X Entries, continued for Y sections. Since I use Delphi for RAD Coding, its not that much work to produce a working editor.



this...............
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Telperiar
Wed Aug 27 2008, 10:24AM


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 @eimajw

Install (and update) the Japanese client first. You find the Jap language File in the ".\Data\Script\" folder of the Jap client like you find the Eng File in the '.\Data\Script\' folder of the Eng client.

I guess you found the HowTo Sticky already.

@udin
You dont need this for translation, l8rdude wanted to know the XSD File structure, programmers stuff you know
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eimajw
Wed Aug 27 2008, 10:50AM
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 haha just worked out why i couldnt find it, i couldnt read all the jap set up stuff and it was in a different location.. thanks
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udin9292
Wed Aug 27 2008, 11:42AM
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 huuh... i now make some shortcut for status in character
like Atack ranting to A.R ... wee... btw.. why my comp
didnt display the japn language.... it only display
like this ... some like rectangle word.... bzzzz .. cant
traslate it... wat should i do? ..

btw.. i using Window xp sp2 (gamer edition)..
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Telperiar
Wed Aug 27 2008, 12:02PM


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 When you see rectangles instead of symbols your windows missed to install the code-pages.

Go "Controlpanel" -> "Regional and Language Options" -> 2nd Tab "Languages" -> Check the box "Install files for eastern Asian Languages" and commit OK twice. Your PC should restart and have correct symbols right after.

I have released a Delta-Patch for the XSD file correcting some terms, check out the Download Section.
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udin9292
Wed Aug 27 2008, 04:44PM
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 hurm... may i ask some.. wat did u mean by linebreaks symbol... is it like this
( __ ) or this ( ---- ) ??? .. which one?....

sory.. i didnt know english too much.. coz i asean..
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